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Post Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 11:04 pm 
 

misterspock wrote in B2 Keep on the Borderlands 3 hole punched print research:just an observation, the modules you had listed were all D&D ones, but no AD&D modules we've seen from that time period are hole-punched.
Except for the accessories Dungeon Master's Adventure Log and the Rogue's gallery.


An excellent point, Mike:  perhaps they tie back to the hole-punched Basic set after all?

The only other AD&D items I can think of that were hole-punched were the various NPC and PC sheets, but the D&D ones were hole-punched too, so that' not a real clue, probably.


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Post Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 2:19 am 
 

Good stuff and ideas. I was shocked to see that B2 in shrink.

  

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Post Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 2:49 pm 
 

Sea-to-sky-games wrote in B2 Keep on the Borderlands 3 hole punched print research:Good stuff and ideas. I was shocked to see that B2 in shrink.

Same here!  Is it possible that was done after-market?

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Post Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 5:15 pm 
 

chromaticknight wrote in B2 Keep on the Borderlands 3 hole punched print research:Didnt quite get it posted this weekend but here it is:

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I never thought about the "hole punching" era but that makes perfect sense to me.

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Used to own a copy of this back in the day, and I don't recall it being 3 hole punched through the cover. I remember the inside being 3 hole punched, but the cover looks as though it was punched after-market as it goes straight through portions of the map. The shrink does not look original either, but without seeing it in person, it's hard to tell.

  

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Post Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:26 pm 
 

Could be that when B2 was in the paste-up or layout process that 3-hole punching was not on their radar for the modules. Maybe it was too costly to re-print just the covers at the time to alter the map art for the gutters on the page simply for a hole-punched version?

  

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Post Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 1:44 pm 
 

Yeah, the maps were definitely not created with hole punching in mind.

It could conceivably get costly to do new covers, depending on how much needed to be changed. Someone would have to be paid to do new layout work, and possibly text edits to the booklet if necessary to reflect the maps. Each page changed would require a new negative to be made, with corresponding printer plate. The rest would be standard for any printing; four-color cover with one or two passes for the inside (depending whether they did process or spot inks), then single color for each b/w page. It's really about how much prep work needed to be done before the press.

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Thinking about it a bit this morning, I could see a possibility where both the maps being punched and then not while the booklet is punched being legit. The first pass would have been done, and then determined in hindsight not to have been a good idea due to the effects on the maps. Then any subsequent printings would be non-punched cover and punched booklet.

Sorta takes part of the usefulness of hole punching away though.


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:28 pm 
 

Apologies for resurrecting an old thread.  I found this B2 which looks to be a seventh print with what looks like its cardboard header removed from the back. However, looking at the versioning information it seems to be a 5th print. The vexing part is that it is also three holed punched.  The scan of the back looks like the cardboard was glued.  Were mods with headers ever hole punched?  

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