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Post Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:14 pm 
 

ddt58 wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:I won a subscription to The Dragon, that started at Issue 2, from playing in the D & D tournament at Origins II, which is why I bought No. 1 at the con.  My issues 2 through 7 have an address label on the back.  I also have issues of the Strategic Review with address labels.  My understanding is that subscription issues are somewhat rarer.


At some point, sub labels were no longer put directly on the magazine. Do you have an idea on when that is? Thanks.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:46 pm 
 

We believe the last issue with a mailing label affixed to the rear was issue #10.  Starting with #11, brown mailing covers started being used.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:02 pm 
 

FoulFoot wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:We believe the last issue with a mailing label affixed to the rear was issue #10.  Starting with #11, brown mailing covers started being used.

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Cool to know. I'll ask the guys at work. I don't grade magazines other than the RPG stuff, though I've been reviewing the Dragon issues coming in to try and add more relevant info/artists/writers to the key comments. Though I think I mentioned we don't have too many lines for information.

I came late to the D&D scene back when I was 13, 1983 as you saw in the video we released. Though I think I may not have mentioned what year it was, or I did and that was a take they didn't use or they edited it out. My first subscription copy was #74 and I think it may have come polybagged, not brown paper by then.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:14 pm 
 

Odd...  #74 was my first subscription copy too!  It came with that combat computer insert, IIRC.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:16 pm 
 

And I think they were still coming in brown mailing covers then, but the ones that were not attached at the staples / just wrap-arounds.  I could be mistaken though.  I don't remember any polybags with my subscription, which lasted up to #120 or so.

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:18 pm 
 

I had my subscription up until I believe the mid to late 90s. I can't remember when I opened my comic book store or worked at my friend's a few years after, it was cheaper to order through Diamond than have the subscription. Eventually I stopped altogether once he got rid of his store, or possibly a few years prior. Same with my Dungeon. Dungeon came in a polybag as I still have a couple sealed from my original subscription of that. That is why I'm missing issues later in the series. Never went back and got them. Eventually....

Has anyone here submitted those early Dragon with sub labels on them? That would be a good indicator of whether or not we've graded any with sub labels and did not separate them out as a variant. Like I said, I know with Sports Illustrated and maybe Playboys, they note about sub labels. In fact, they are very particular because some labels are removed, but the experts at my job still can tell with the subtle indent or very light amount of glue left on the cover. Sub labels do not affect grade either unless they are torn and do damage. I also believe sub copies demand slightly more money than newsstand.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:47 pm 
 

FoulFoot wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:We believe the last issue with a mailing label affixed to the rear was issue #10.  Starting with #11, brown mailing covers started being used.

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Talked with the guys. They've already done a #6 subscription variant, so we'll do any others.

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:05 pm 
 

Show off! Very cool though. :)

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:39 pm 
 

A week to go in the Heritage Auction that features nearly 300 slabbed RPG items, and the prices are starting to heat up. Almost everything in this auction is NM (9.2 or better). Interested to see in a week where this ends up...

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:17 am 
 

Badmike wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:A week to go in the Heritage Auction that features nearly 300 slabbed RPG items, and the prices are starting to heat up. Almost everything in this auction is NM (9.2 or better). Interested to see in a week where this ends up...

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I 'm really interested to see where the signed items and the 9.8 L3 go for.

I don't know how many copies of a pristine 1st edition module limited to 5K copies is going to come up for auction.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:17 am 
 

Badmike wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:A week to go in the Heritage Auction that features nearly 300 slabbed RPG items, and the prices are starting to heat up. Almost everything in this auction is NM (9.2 or better). Interested to see in a week where this ends up...

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I 'm really interested to see where the signed items and the 9.8 L3 go for.

I don't know how many copies of a pristine 1st edition module limited to 5K copies is going to come up for auction.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:55 pm 
 

The silver anniversary is a wonderful set. I think many L3s are in great condition though, being published in 1999. Many were purchased and shelved. I would rather have this one. :)


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:52 pm 
 

Tszii wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:The silver anniversary is a wonderful set. I think many L3s are in great condition though, being published in 1999. Many were purchased and shelved. I would rather have this one. :)



Agreed, L3 is a fun one to have for display (I have a 9.8 myself), but since most were boxed and not played I have a feeling NM condition will be over represented with this one.
The keys are going to be early TSR modules, AD&D 1E, in 8.5 or better condition. They are 40+ years old, and everyone played their copies, spilled drinks on them, wrote in them, etc. People are going to soon realize how difficult it is to find one of these in NM (9.2) condition or better.

Right now leading in the Heritage auction are exactly what you would think if that's the case: D3 8.5---$360; I6 9.2---$310; G1-3 9.4---$310; S1 Mono 6.5---$280; S1 Green cover 9.4---$260; S4 Orange cover 9.4---$220; S3 8.5---$210.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:29 am 
 

Badmike wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:

The keys are going to be early TSR modules, AD&D 1E, in 8.5 or better condition.

Right now leading in the Heritage auction are exactly what you would think if that's the case:


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I agree, getting a 8.5 is going to be the trick. Over half of my best, the ones I looked at as in really nice condition, are a 7.0-8.0. 15% of my submissions were 8.5 or higher, and yes, those did stand out with one being removed from split shrink wrap.

I am curious to see how the shrink stuff shakes out. I will accept, or possibly even change my mind, about graded shrink over time. I didnt even think about it till the discussion here. Cards and comics just arent in shrink wrap, but this is its own thing.

  


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:08 am 
 

Tszii wrote in CGC Grading Etc...:
I agree, getting a 8.5 is going to be the trick. Over half of my best, the ones I looked at as in really nice condition, are a 7.0-8.0. 15% of my submissions were 8.5 or higher, and yes, those did stand out with one being removed from split shrink wrap.

I am curious to see how the shrink stuff shakes out. I will accept, or possibly even change my mind, about graded shrink over time. I didnt even think about it till the discussion here. Cards and comics just arent in shrink wrap, but this is its own thing.


Actually the video games being shrinked is where it pretty much all began. I am an avid vintage video game collector. Been doing it for almost 30 years now. I have over 2000 games for 35 systems. The newest consoles I own would be Sega CD, Turbo Graphx, and PS1. Never owned an Xbox or after the original PS. I have an extensive Atari 2600 collection, over 600 games, have over 500 NES. My Atari is my pride and joy, with over 300 boxes and probably at least half that sealed. Eventually I'll get a lot of this graded too.

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:25 am 
 

I have only bought a few games. They do make great display pieces. Shinning in the Darkness is my favorite. I completed it 10 times.

  


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Post Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 7:15 am 
 

New record for a S3 I think. Wow, that is a lot.


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