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Poll: What kind of artwork would you have Erol Otus Commission for the Acaeum?

I have no interest in any Erol Otus artwork. 9%       9%  [ 11 ]
I prefer a color, 11x17 print. 15%       15%  [ 18 ]
I prefer a black & white 11x17 print. 5%       5%  [ 6 ]
I prefter a color, 17x24 print. 59%       59%  [ 69 ]
I prefer a black & white 17x24 print. 6%       6%  [ 7 ]
I prefer something else larger. 5%       5%  [ 6 ]
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Post Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:53 pm 
 

Just say the word and blammo, I'll pay faster than a sham-wow can soak up a 2 liter.


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Post Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:09 pm 
 

I understand the desire to see this as something limited if not unique, but honestly I don't care if EO can make some more money off his creative talent.

When this gets done and I'm lucky enough to get a copy then I will know that my copy is one of the sought after 50. One of the ones we have been talking about for weeks (months?) now. All this talk makes getting one of these even more desirable. This will go up right next to my print of the original Tegal Manor map, and if no one but me ever appreciates the history of it, then that will be perfectly fine, because this is about capturing the fleeting spirit of a time almost 30 years gone.

I left a good deal of my past behind me (as well as a fiance, all my gaming books and notes and my record collection) and to me a brand spanking new Otus print designed specificly for our little group here is not only about regaining some of that past but looking toward the future as well.

I just want one of these prints. Whatever else EO wants to do is fine with me.

  


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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 12:16 am 
 

benjoshua wrote:It should be noted that wherever the original goes, there is always the possibility for additional attempts at profiteering by producing more prints or using it for other purposes. The committee feels that, other than destroying the original, the art is safest with its creator.

Actually, once the original has been scanned and the high-res file is sent to the printer, anyone who gets their hands on that file can easily reproduce the art however they want.  The original can be thrown away at that point.  EO will have that file, the people who scan the original will have that file, everyone who works for the printer will have that file.  All it takes is for any one of those people to share that file with a friend, and its all over. :-)

I imagine EO wants the original for his own wall. But like I said, the physical painting is moot once that high-res scan is produced.

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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 12:57 am 
 

Gus Landt wrote:Actually, once the original has been scanned and the high-res file is sent to the printer, anyone who gets their hands on that file can easily reproduce the art however they want.  The original can be thrown away at that point.  EO will have that file, the people who scan the original will have that file, everyone who works for the printer will have that file.  All it takes is for any one of those people to share that file with a friend, and its all over. :-)

I imagine EO wants the original for his own wall. But like I said, the physical painting is moot once that high-res scan is produced.


The entire process will be done in-house.  

Gus, the scan/shoot will probably be done on a flatbed scanner, or a large format camera.  If we use a digital printer the digital scans of the original and the files will be ours as most contracts dictate.  They can be kept on file or destroyed as per our instructions.  Also, the printer would be liable if someone stole or used the files: it would ruin their reputation.   We are not using a fly-by-night printer, and the files will be easy to track.

If we use an offset printer, the plates are destroyed after the process.  The scan would be treated as noted above.  Moreover, and most importantly, other prints, if they did surface, would not have Erol's signature, be numbered 1 to 50, and possess our certificate of authenticity.

The EO Committee is doing everything in its power to produce a quality, limited edition print.  Any other print would be considered a fake, for lack of a better word.

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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:32 am 
 

PaulKM wrote:...If we use an offset printer...


I'm hoping for this... can I suggest something other than standard glossy or aqueous finish... maybe uncoated stock with a matte varnish...

I worked in printing and would love to know what stock and finish you guys are planning.

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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 3:14 am 
 

TheMilford wrote:
I'm hoping for this... can I suggest something other than standard glossy or aqueous finish... maybe uncoated stock with a matte varnish...

I worked in printing and would love to know what stock and finish you guys are planning.

Cheers,
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The stock and finish will be determined by the original and the printing method we select.  However, we will try and get the best stock available.

We have looked at a number of different stocks for off-set printing.  For instance, we could use McCoy 100lb, uncoated, matte, cover weight (as opposed to text weight, which should reduce kinking) stock.  There are a number of choices for stock, but none will be coated gloss or matte.  

Much will depend on the original and the printer.  There are still a number of details to be worked out.  

That said, please keep the questions and discussion flowing: we truly appreciate the comments and suggestions.

Best,

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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:35 am 
 

A number of people did not receive the user group PM for one reason or another.  The following users had their messages bounce:

jonjhargreaves
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Ekim Toor

Some servers have the Acaeum blacklisted us because of an improper DNS entry for example, so they didn't receive my mass message.  The good news is that most people received my message.  If I use the message system in the future, I'll state that a mass message went out in the thread so those who didn't receive a message can be contacted by me individually.  I don't anticipate needing to send out many private messages anyway. 8)


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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:41 am 
 

Re: the mass PM: yes, the subject line and the content are blank.  I've combined two mods to make it work, and in this single respect, the two mods don't play well with each other.  Unfortunately, my PHP skills are not sufficient to make it work correctly.  However, the e-mail notification does serve its purpose, in that it lets you know you have a PM waiting.  This is how a standard phpBB e-mail notification works.

A few people did not receive the mass PM.  This appears to be because your e-mail address in your profile is rejecting the PM (and not just the mass PM... all PMs).  Those four people are:

Ekim Toor
shaggymatt36
jonjhargreaves
Ethesis

Any of you guys, feel free to contact me (probably best to do it directly at webmaster@acaeum.com) to see if we can narrow down where the problem is, if you're certain that your profile e-mail address is correct.

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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:44 am 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:The notifications being blank wasn't what concerned me....it was the fact that Hotmail identified it as malicious content.  I've used Hotmail for ten years and never had that happen.  I didnt open it so I had no idea if it was blank or not.  Thought it might be some sort of attempt at spoofing until I logged onto the forum and compared time stamps.

Hotmail filtering it may have had something to do with the blank subject or blank content.  Dunno.

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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:41 am 
 

PaulKM wrote:...we could use McCoy 100lb, uncoated, matte, cover weight (as opposed to text weight, which should reduce kinking) stock.  There are a number of choices for stock, but none will be coated gloss or matte.


80-100lb Cover stock is the way to go but is heavier and expensive. Potlach's McCoy comes in two colors to my knowledge... they do a natural and a ultra-brite white... which is a little bluish. The Ultr-brite is good for matching colors (PMS) more accurately and tends to help a little against yellowing over time... However I'm not sure how acid-free their paper is.

I'm psyched you are considering uncoated with matte.

Whatever you guys decide to do should be great. It sounds like you know exactly what you are doing :)

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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 2:20 pm 
 

TheMilford wrote:
80-100lb Cover stock is the way to go but is heavier and expensive. Potlach's McCoy comes in two colors to my knowledge... they do a natural and a ultra-brite white... which is a little bluish. The Ultr-brite is good for matching colors (PMS) more accurately and tends to help a little against yellowing over time... However I'm not sure how acid-free their paper is.

I'm psyched you are considering uncoated with matte.

Whatever you guys decide to do should be great. It sounds like you know exactly what you are doing :)


Kudos to Paul.  He's giving us all quite an education when it comes to printing methods; what I know/knew about it could fit on the backside of a postage stamp.  Paul has had to learn quite a bit about the process while researching prices and it's serving us well.

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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:06 pm 
 

Please ask all questions and state all opinions on this thread.


The EO Committee has reached an agreement with Erol Otus to produce 50 Limited Edition Prints for the Acaeum Community!


Ben, is there any specific reason for persisting with the idea of this being an "Acaeum Community" project, considering quite a few Acaeum members who have expressed a desire to be included continue to be excluded?

  

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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:53 pm 
 

megnelwil wrote:
Ben, is there any specific reason for persisting with the idea of this being an "Acaeum Community" project, considering quite a few Acaeum members who have expressed a desire to be included continue to be excluded?


That has been brought up a few times before.
The EO committee is not going to commision more than 50 copies.

I was close to missing the cutoff myself.
I got lucky........

Several reasons for the 50 copies cutoff were given..... and they are deeper in this thread for the reading.


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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:16 pm 
 

Aneoth wrote:
That has been brought up a few times before.
The EO committee is not going to commision more than 50 copies.

I was close to missing the cutoff myself.
I got lucky........

Several reasons for the 50 copies cutoff were given..... and they are deeper in this thread for the reading.


Thanks Aneoth, I've read through the thread and am aware of the varying explanations for limiting the commission. However, that's not what I was asking. I was asking why this project is being directly related to the "Acaeum Community".

  


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Badmike wrote:
Kudos to Paul.  He's giving us all quite an education when it comes to printing methods; what I know/knew about it could fit on the backside of a postage stamp.  Paul has had to learn quite a bit about the process while researching prices and it's serving us well.

Mike B.


D, thanks for the encouragement! :) Mike, thank you for the kind words.

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megnelwil wrote:
Thanks Aneoth, I've read through the thread and am aware of the varying explanations for limiting the commission. However, that's not what I was asking. I was asking why this project is being directly related to the "Acaeum Community".


The idea was thought up by Acaeum members; first discussed here in the Acaeum; is being implemented by Acaeum members; the majority of the individuals getting the prints are Acaeum members; Foulfoot has graciously allowed us to use the "Acaeum" name on the drawing itself.  The entire thrust of the project is a desire to create a keepsake of our memories of gaming, which is a goal of websites like The Acaeum.

Sounds pretty closely related to the Acaeum community, in all aspects. Without the Acaeum this project would have never happened.

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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:46 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:
The idea was thought up by Acaeum members; first discussed here in the Acaeum; is being implemented by Acaeum members; the majority of the individuals getting the prints are Acaeum members; Foulfoot has graciously allowed us to use the "Acaeum" name on the drawing itself.  The entire thrust of the project is a desire to create a keepsake of our memories of gaming, which is a goal of websites like The Acaeum.

Sounds pretty closely related to the Acaeum community, in all aspects. Without the Acaeum this project would have never happened.

Mike B.


Hi Mike, apart from a couple of points, that seems to be an accurate commentary on the facts as I understand them. However, your use of the term, "community", and the way you relate it directly to the Acaeum still confuses me. Most certainly a subset of the Acaeum community has been invited to participate in this project. Would you agree, therefore, a clear distinction between this subset of Acaeum members and the wider Acaeum "Community" ought to be acknowledged rather than the former continue to be applied as the latter despite the indisputable and fundamental difference? Is there a suitable term that could be applied to this subset of members so confusion over the idea of what the Acaeum community refers to might be resolved? I believe Ben's original suggestion when this thread was created was very much focused on the community and no ambiguity existed. But I'm sure nobody is under any real illusions as to the transformation in the nature of this project that has been detailed in subsequent contributions and agreed to by the subset of members. Which leads me to the other point you have raised which seems to stand at odds with what I am witnessing in this thread, "The entire thrust of the project is a desire to create a keepsake of our memories of gaming". I take that in the tongue-in-cheek manner it is surely intended and with good grace. I'm not angling for a copy of the print, starting an artwork collection would surely finish me off financially :-) . But both of us know what's happening here because it has been clearly developed and laid out in the thread. No problems, the subset of members has reached agreement and for my part these are merely my opinions and I'm not directly involved so pinches of salt all around. But I am still interested, as a member of what I understand to be the Acaeum community, in what's going on and was invited to comment by Ben. Genuine regards as always.

Actually there was one other point, "the majority of the individuals getting the prints are Acaeum members". Clarification might be useful here as any recipients other than the artist himself and Acaeum members would seem unreasonable given there is a waiting list and in light of the points you have detailed.

  

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Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 8:16 pm 
 

megnelwil wrote:
Is there a suitable term that could be applied to this subset of members so confusion over the idea of what the Acaeum community refers to might be resolved? .


How about the 300... I mean the 50... or those lucky bastards.

  
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