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Poll: Will RPGs remain a popular collectible with the next generation?

It is generational and will probably decline in the future 63%       63%  [ 46 ]
It is a solid collectible that will hold its value and be popular with the next generation 25%       25%  [ 18 ]
Unsure or mixed feelings 12%       12%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 73

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:12 pm 
 

I'm not so sure about that far of a decline--it seems that it is far easier to collect today than ever, largely because of eBay (among other sites), and the Internet in general, than even ten years back.  Far easier to find information about specific items now than "back then".

Just look at this site and where the posters are from . . . who thought when most posters (that are in their 40's) could talk to people from around the world about D&D/AD&D, back when a fair number of us on this site were teenagers?

  

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:26 pm 
 

Something else occured that makes me lean toward the generational thing: Back in the early 80s there was a backlask against D&D by the Christian right.

I don't know how much impact it had in other parts of the country, but here in the south it was fairly profound.

There were extreme cases -- groups burning D&D books -- and other, less drastic episodes that I remember vividly.  I had friends at school who simply quit playing the game, and knew of parents who wouldn't allow their kids to play the game.

These incidents may have taken a number of copies of OD&D and 1E material out of circulation, and had an impact on the availability of material now.

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:56 pm 
 

I voted unsure.  

While there are good arguments for it being generational, my family (mother) and others that I know have made very good money from things that were around in the late 1800's.

These things were dolls.


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:01 pm 
 

red_bus wrote:Good thoughts all round.

I think that one factor which will affect all this is whether people will continue (or re-start) to game into their retirement.  If these pastimes are completely forgotten by then, then over time the collectible market will decline (although I think that there will always probably be a market for some of the older iconic stuff, e.g. Dragon Mag. #1 etc.. albeit a small one).  On the other hand, if people use their increased leisure in retirement to game (or start gaming again), then I think that the collecting market will stay very strong.


Picking up on this comment. I watched a documentary on the evolution of the toy market in Japan. Because of declining birth rates in wealthy countries, the toy / game market in general has declined. In Japan, companies started producing toys and games for retirees. It is the largest growing market in Japan - really booming apparently. People are living longer and have a lot of time on their hands. In the past people in retirement homes twiddled their thumbs, watched TV and did crosswords. In Japan, retirement home residents are buying games specifically designed for older people, including computer games. Perhaps, in the distant future us collectors will actually be able to 'play' our games rather than just collect them!  :)

  


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:19 pm 
 

The quality is there so i expect these items to appreciate over time. The rares in particular will only appreciate and there will be no looking back regarding them!

For example there are so few copies of Lost tamoachan out there that it will never go cheap in collectible condition! Its a big world after all and it won't take many collectors coming into the fold to increase the value of these items.

I expect shrinkwrapped pristine modules & items to appreciate as well!


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:08 am 
 

Some serious thread necromancy here...

When I have some down time I love to use the search feature on this forum.  It is amazing the wealth of knowledge and or wisdom that can be uncovered with seemingly very few key words.  Anyways, going back 15 to 20 years and looking at peoples thoughts on the future of the collectable market is always interesting.  The rise of events in pop culture (which can never be predicted. Be it a movie or show or whatever. ) can influence the state of the market greatly. I think  that newer generations will get sucked into our spaces just like the previous ones.  Edition creep is occurring now where 2E and later items are highly sought after.   Books will get become more rare with time, especially pristine ones, and the health of the hobby will endure strongly.  What say you?

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:34 am 
 

Some of the commentary did not age well.  Prices are up on almost everything, even d20 and 4th edition items!

Collectible RPGs still have some life in them. :)

  

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:39 pm 
 

dbartman wrote in The Future of RPGs as a collectible?:Some of the commentary did not age well.  Prices are up on almost everything, even d20 and 4th edition items!

Collectible RPGs still have some life in them. :)


100% agree Doug.

70% of the people in the poll selected the "It is generational and will probably decline in the future" option.  Now maybe the time span hasn't been long enough (18+ years since the poll was created), but the future definitely is looking bright.

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:45 pm 
 

dbartman wrote in The Future of RPGs as a collectible?:Some of the commentary did not age well.  Prices are up on almost everything, even d20 and 4th edition items!

Collectible RPGs still have some life in them. :)

Ironically, and I don't know if I contributed to the conversation previously, but I was going to say it is generational.... I guess it comes down to what one means by "generational." Are rpgs becoming more or less popular, as a share of the entire gaming market? Far more than the 1990's, I would think, but less than than the 2000's perhaps?

  

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:50 pm 
 

Sea-to-sky-games wrote in The Future of RPGs as a collectible?:Are rpgs becoming more or less popular, as a share of the entire gaming market? Far more than the 1990's, I would think, but less than the 2000's perhaps?

Popularity (growth) appears to have increased significantly, in no small part due to PC/Console games.  Here are some articles on the topic:

Tabletop Role-Playing Game (TTRPG) Market Size, Trend, 2033

Interesting chart in the prior article on the age of players.

https://www.strategicmarketresearch.com ... mes-market

Computer RPG games:

Role-playing Games Market Size, Share, Scope, Trends And Forecast 2030

Crowdfunding platforms have also likely played a part in this growth.

  


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 3:49 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote in The Future of RPGs as a collectible?:I agree almost completely with the theory of everything Mark said above, although I suspect that the times that he lists are probably a bit to short.  

I just can't see there being much of a market(with the exception of very few items like woodgrain sets) really extending beyond those who were younger than the age of 7 in 1985 and so I would add another 12 to 15 years to Mark's model.  I would say that once those folks who were in the age range of 7-10 years old around 1985 hit their late 40's and fifties, the market will substanitally start to turn downwards meaning arond the year 2020 to 2025 as that puts those who were around 10 years old in 1985 around 50 years old in 2025.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:06 pm 
 

It looks like it will continue to grow, based on the last 20 years. Its already more popular than magic the gathering. Its not like pokemon cards, but its not funco pops.

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:47 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote in The Future of RPGs as a collectible?:Woof.  I'm 51 now.  How did that happen?

Went by way too fast!

  

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:25 pm 
 

When we're young, time seems to pass slowly.  Our brains are deluged with new information and experiences to process and we yearn for the future.  When we're old, time seems to pass in the blink of an eye.  Our brains are exposed to new information and experiences far less frequently and we always wish we had more time.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:46 pm 
 

Tszii wrote in The Future of RPGs as a collectible?:It looks like it will continue to grow, based on the last 20 years. Its already more popular than magic the gathering. Its not like pokemon cards, but its not funco pops.

That's a cool graph. By "interest" it sounds like number of google searches - not sure if this is controlled for number of total google searches, or not. The peak of 100 is set by the local highs, so it would be interesting, but perhaps impossible, to know how "interest" compares to the 1980's.

I've gotten the impression, however, that D&D is losing WOTC money, so perhaps "interest" doesn't necessarily (or is not currently) translate into profits.

  


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:40 pm 
 

I keep swearing this is the last time I'm going to say this...but I have been saying for, well since the last Millenium, that prices are going to keep going up and up. I need to stop saying it, because I think some people are believing me and consequently I'm having to pay more for things.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:42 pm 
 

While interest in D&D has risen over the past decades, there are multiple contributing factors, some of which will most likely decline.  Big Bang Theory is credited by some as generating interest.  The Youtube interest in Critical Role may have been a factor.  When COVID hit, some people hibernated at home with their hobbies.  But the biggest factor may be that those of us who grew up with 1e and 2e are now starting to pass away.  Nostalgia is a powerful force in collecting, and the fewer people there are who remember how great D&D, TSR and EGG, were, the less passionate a person might be about paying a lot of money for something.  While prices have certainly gone up a lot, I can't see D&D collectibles maintaining this rate of increase.  Values will climb, but by not as much in my opinion.  We'll see.  :)


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:33 pm 
 

stratochamp wrote in The Future of RPGs as a collectible?:I keep swearing this is the last time I'm going to say this...but I have been saying for, well since the last Millenium, that prices are going to keep going up and up. I need to stop saying it, because I think some people are believing me and consequently I'm having to pay more for things.


Clearly, grading is not popular after two years. However, I think folks who bought this will become more less rare.


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