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Post Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:42 pm 
 

I don't believe I've ever seen Noble Knight at GenCon, there has been a half price book seller there though I don't recall the name.  Other then that a few stalls with a smattering of stuff exist, but it is not their primary stuff they sell.  They can have a good item or two, found a SW 1st print of Thieves World #3 for $8. (Sorry for bringing up TW Mark :) )

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Post Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:45 pm 
 

Oh and I should ask..for those going, would anyone be willing to possibly pick up somethings for me..I don't have a list yet as I'm not quite sure what is all being offered (this would be new stuff btw), but just thought to ask while I'm thinking about it.

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Post Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:48 pm 
 

ExTSR wrote:Whatever T&T is doing they seem to be doing it right:

Troll & Toad buys $150,000 boardgame collection

Excerpt: "TrollandToad.com spokesman Ryan Severin says the acquisition is the largest in the company's 17 years of doing business. It has 75 employees and had sales of $5 million last year."


T&T does one thing very well. They can sell the hell out of Magic and other CCGs. They make money off volume....right now they have over 45,000 listings in these categories (65,000 listings total!). Right now, they only have 2000 D&D RPG listings and 3000 other RPG listings, less than 1 percent of their total listings. In contrast, most RPG dealers (myself included) who are Acaeum members have 50% or more of their volume tied up on D&D/RPG items.

 If you check out T&T RPG prices they are consistently above every other RPG seller on Ebay, and not by just a little.  This, combined with their lack of specific descriptions or scans/pictures of items (they use stock photos/scans), means they will continue to be marginalized in the selling of RPGs and particularly rare RPGS (where their prices are sometimes double what the same item gets in auction or is listed by another seller). Honestly that's a good thing; if they ever decided to cut their prices in half they might put a lot of people out of business. It's not like they need the used RPG side of the business to carry them!

But kudos to what they do well...sell the hell out of CCGs.  And congrats on the board game collection, they should double their money on that one.

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Post Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:12 am 
 

Hi,

one thing I did notice about the hall plan was how many empty booths there are - I think all the red number are booked, but the blue numbers are available.

With only 100 days to go, I would have thought more booths might have been booked up by now.

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Post Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:55 am 
 

lawrenson wrote:Hi,

one thing I did notice about the hall plan was how many empty booths there are - I think all the red number are booked, but the blue numbers are available.

With only 100 days to go, I would have thought more booths might have been booked up by now.

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yes i was wondering about that too. anyone any ideas? or do ppl buy up the stalls with less time to go or something....


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Post Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:23 am 
 

lawrenson wrote:Oh, and no PPP this year, by the look of it.


No, I don't think Rob's planning the attend GC at all this year (although I haven't heard back from them yet about if he's going to be a GOH or not, either).


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Post Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:03 am 
 

grodog wrote:
No, I don't think Rob's planning the attend GC at all this year (although I haven't heard back from them yet about if he's going to be a GOH or not, either).


Can't you get someone there to sell PPP stock?  I just think for the 2nd year in a row you guys are passing up an excellent marketing opportunity.

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Post Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:00 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:
T&T does one thing very well. They can sell the hell out of Magic and other CCGs. They make money off volume....right now they have over 45,000 listings in these categories (65,000 listings total!). Right now, they only have 2000 D&D RPG listings and 3000 other RPG listings, less than 1 percent of their total listings. In contrast, most RPG dealers (myself included) who are Acaeum members have 50% or more of their volume tied up on D&D/RPG items.

 If you check out T&T RPG prices they are consistently above every other RPG seller on Ebay, and not by just a little.  This, combined with their lack of specific descriptions or scans/pictures of items (they use stock photos/scans), means they will continue to be marginalized in the selling of RPGs and particularly rare RPGS (where their prices are sometimes double what the same item gets in auction or is listed by another seller). Honestly that's a good thing; if they ever decided to cut their prices in half they might put a lot of people out of business. It's not like they need the used RPG side of the business to carry them!

But kudos to what they do well...sell the hell out of CCGs.  And congrats on the board game collection, they should double their money on that one.

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It's not just RPGs with Toad & Troll, its wargames. Their prices are 2 to 4 times the average going rate. I sduspect that the wargame/rpg side of their business may be part hobby to someone in management.

  

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Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:08 pm 
 

Has there been any word on the day/time of Frank's games?  I'd like to schedule some stuff, but have been holding off until some word (even a rough estimate) was given.

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Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:53 pm 
 

Yeah, we oughta pin that down so y'all can book events.

I'll get on it shortly.

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Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:02 pm 
 

we will be ok, cos we are only playing a game of mine and doing some socialising and rummaging.....and of course the rares auctions.

tho i think a few of the guys are doing that live dungeon deal.


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Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:26 pm 
 

I'd guess that for most people, the majority of the day Thursday will be spent rummaging around the exhibition hall and consignment store looking for stuff to buy. That is what Badmike and I are planning to do anyway.

Friday and Saturday are probably going to be the best days to get games going.  Al could have his in the morning either (or both) of those days since Frank isn't a morning person (I did read that a few pages back right?  :lol: ).  Frank could run his game(s) either during the afternoon (noon - 4) or late morning/early afternoon (say 10 - 2?).  Another question is....where to have it?  Anyone staying in a suite?  :wink:


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Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:29 pm 
 

i would rather us grab a table somewhere and play, so passers-by could come see whats going on. seems a shame to shut the game away, when we want to promote JUDGES GUILD!


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Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:31 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:i would rather us grab a table somewhere and play, so passers-by could come see whats going on. seems a shame to shut the game away, when we want to promote JUDGES GUILD!


That would obviously be perfect, but there will be quite a few people playing and it might not be easy to find a place to play with enough space, chairs, etc.  We got lucky last year to find the smallish table we did at the Hyatt.


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Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:33 pm 
 

yeah you might have a point there. anyone got any ideas?


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Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:23 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:yeah you might have a point there. anyone got any ideas?


I'm with King....I can't concentrate if I'm being goggled at like a shrew at the zoo.  Maybe this year we can get a bigger table in the same kind of area (right outside of some of the gaming areas of the hotels) and be visible to passersby.  I actually liked our little area last year.

Actually that was a really good gaming area, if we had just had one of the larger tables nearer where the events were being held in the hotel meeting rooms. If we get there earlier this year hopefully we can snag something and stake out our space.

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Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:26 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:I'd guess that for most people, the majority of the day Thursday will be spent rummaging around the exhibition hall and consignment store looking for stuff to buy. That is what Badmike and I are planning to do anyway.

Friday and Saturday are probably going to be the best days to get games going.  Al could have his in the morning either (or both) of those days since Frank isn't a morning person (I did read that a few pages back right?  :lol: ).  Frank could run his game(s) either during the afternoon (noon - 4) or late morning/early afternoon (say 10 - 2?).  Another question is....where to have it?  Anyone staying in a suite?  :wink:


Saturday is definitley the best day to game. By that time we've had two days to go through the dealers hall, consignment stuff, and auctions.  Plus by Saturday that place gets worse than a Macy's department store with a half off sale. As long as we are through by auction time I'm fine.  Saturday finds the highest concentration of people at the convention, including all the lookie loos who aren't serious gamers (if you were a serious gamer you'd be there on Thursday!!!) and it's pretty much impossible to move around or do anything else, I'd much rather game all day long and then hit the auctions that night.

All day Thursday will definitely be spent buying stuff from open to close!

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Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:27 pm 
 

yeah me too. so how do we go about sorting that? were they not the free tables? so how do we get one of them sorted? just get there real early?


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