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Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:22 pm 
 

New thread for discussion, rather than continuing elsewhere.

Here's an interesting personalized woodgrain featured in the GeekDad article on Wired:

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Note the "Come Visit My Dungeon" sticker and Arneson's address label in the upper right hand corner.

Something about the sticker sounded familiar and searching dug up some 2008 discussion on the Acaeum of another woodgrain set with the same sticker. See here in the lengthy "Interesting Items Formerly on Ebay" thread. One member, spades1013, also reported having an unattached copy of the same sticker, on the next page of the thread. Is it a strange coincidence that there were two copies like this or is there some connection? There was speculation that the sticker was from the Dungeon Hobby Shop, but nothing definite was mentioned. Anybody else remember this sticker?


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Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:27 pm 
 

That sticker looks very familiar, but I can't remember where I've seen one before.


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Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:33 pm 
 

Zenopus wrote:Something about the sticker sounded familiar and searching dug up some 2008 discussion on the Acaeum of another woodgrain set with the same sticker. See here in the lengthy "Interesting Items Formerly on Ebay" thread.


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Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 3:38 am 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:That sticker looks very familiar, but I can't remember where I've seen one before.


I vaguely remember this same item being auctioned and people here commenting on the tragedy of someone putting a big sticker on the cover of a woodie!

  

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Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:02 am 
 

HermitFromPluto wrote:
JasonZavoda wrote:That sticker looks very familiar, but I can't remember where I've seen one before.


I vaguely remember this same item being auctioned and people here commenting on the tragedy of someone putting a big sticker on the cover of a woodie!


Dont care what the story is behind the sticker; to place it on the top of that woodie was indeed a mistake and a tragedy.


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Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:30 am 
 

HermitFromPluto wrote:
JasonZavoda wrote:That sticker looks very familiar, but I can't remember where I've seen one before.


I vaguely remember this same item being auctioned and people here commenting on the tragedy of someone putting a big sticker on the cover of a woodie!


It doesn't seem to be the same copy. Unless it was obscured or not visible in the auction photos, someone in that earlier thread would have mentioned if the other copy had Arneson's name on the cover.


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Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:07 pm 
 

Gnat the Beggar wrote:
HermitFromPluto wrote:
I vaguely remember this same item being auctioned and people here commenting on the tragedy of someone putting a big sticker on the cover of a woodie!


Dont care what the story is behind the sticker; to place it on the top of that woodie was indeed a mistake and a tragedy.


I agree, the cover illustration on the woodie is fantastic. I wonder if Arneson was given it with the sticker already on it.


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Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:58 pm 
 

I'll ping Ernie to see if he remembers if the sticker was a Dungeon Hobby Shop item.  The sticker does look to me like one of the old ads that were run in The Dragon, but I haven't gone back digging yet....


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Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:38 pm 
 

So this is what Ernie and Heidi had to say:

Heidi Gygax Ernie will undoubtedly have more accurate and detailed info, but I remember that sticker from the Dungeon Hobby Shop and I think it was made when the store and TSR were in the house on Williams St. Ern...?

Ernest Gary Gygax Jr. We had stacks of them in our Shipping Dept of the Dungeon Distributors. I do not remember why we had them though. I think it is from the 772 Main St days rather than the earlier 723 Williams St.


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Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:29 pm 
 

The one you're referring to from a few years ago was mine, but the sticker was inside the box lid. I bought it from the original owner through Dragonstrove. The owner bought the woodgrain from EGG in his basement, and said Gygax had attached the sticker himself.


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Post Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:17 pm 
 

Howdy All,


That sticker has a bit of an interesting story. My research so far shows that they were available through the Dungeon Hobby shop circa 1975. Unfortunately, that conflicts with what Ernie says, as the Dungeon moved in about Oct of 1978  from Williams St. to Main St. However, I don't think it was very likely that Dave would have picked one of these up later than 1976 as he was pretty much out of TSR by then. Also, if Gary was at the shop affixing that sticker from the other set noted above then I think that *must* have happened at the Williams St. shop. If it happened in the basement - well that puts it at 330 Center St. Thus my contention that it was in 1975. I'll ask Ernie to clarify.

Gary's collection has one of these stickers as well but his was with, not affixed to his 1st print. Note, there is a smaller sign at the edge of the dungeon entrance in the illustration that says, "Lasciate ogni speranza Voi Ch'Entrate". Which is Italian and translates into:

Lasciate = (you all) leave
ogni = every
speranza = hope
Voi = you all
Ch' = that
Entrate = (you all) enter

In Dante's Divine Comedy, there is a sign at the gates of Hell with that inscription on it. I have heard translations of it as, "Abandon all hope, all who enter here" or "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here".

Note too, the direction of the DLA woodgrain is horizontal but that the label is not pasted on but affixed by tape at each of the four corners and that the side label is similarly affixed but is on the left side. Also, there is an errata sheet included with the standard first print reference sheets.


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Post Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 6:46 pm 
 

I do have one of these still on the backing which lists it as a Mactac MR-1 from the Morgan adhesive company of Stow, Ohio.  I don't know if that helps anyone but, just in the interest of sharing information.

  


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Post Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:13 pm 
 

Thanks for the info everyone. Maybe this sticker will turn up on Ebay at some point now that it's more recognized. Perhaps DHS them as early as 1975 but still had a stack around at a later date that Ernie remembers?

I looked through SR1-7, and Dragons 1-25 or so, and found many interesting Dungeon Hobby Shop ads, but not any with this particular artwork.


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Post Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 10:35 am 
 

Its always interesting to see which auctions have crazy prices.  So far most seem fairly tame except for the backgammon board insert from Dragon #15 currently at $51:


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Post Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:17 am 
 

The cthulhu is going higher than I would have expected.

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Post Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:53 am 
 

Versimilitude wrote:The cthulhu is going higher than I would have expected.


Indeed.  That's a lot of money for a signature on an incomplete item.

The B/X rulebooks are inexplicably high as well.


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Post Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:37 pm 
 

Why is Warriors from Mars going so high?

  

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Post Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:18 pm 
 

Eruantien wrote:Why is Warriors from Mars going so high?


This has been obtaining $300-$500 fairly regularly for the last few years.

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