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Post Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:59 pm 
 

Hey guys,

Been away from the hobby for a while,

I have a friend and neighbor that is possibly interested in unloaded his collection on me. it's stuff from the late 70s through the mid 80s. But almost everything has some level of water damage or musty odor. The only reason I ask and might consider grabbing it is that there are some items that are in otherwise decent shape and a few rare pieces (off the top of my head, he has B10 in complete condition). some pieces are in excellent shape save for the odor or some powdery dry mildew that seems to be able to be wiped away. Other books are truly water damaged and/or bent from improper storage.

I'm sure he will let me photograph and catalog the collection… but I told him because of the damage that it will be hard to get much for it… however if I can reverse or reduce some of the odor, mildew and mild bending should I give him a lowball offer? I suppose some of this stuff would be useful to somebody that actually wants a "playing" copy?

I dunno, what should I do? Also, do you guys have a trick for restoration of this kid of stuff?

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:23 pm 
 

By the sounds of it any offer would be considered fair.  If you are looking to "value the collection", I would basically come up with a price on all the stuff that is in good shape that you could sell today, then figure out if you want to deal with the water/mold/mildew damaged stuff.  Even if you clean up the damaged stuff, you are still not likely to get much for it and it will have cost you a fair bit of your time.  Also, depending on how bad it is, a bunch of it is probably still fit for the bin.

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:47 pm 
 

Mold is a terrible thing. Spores get into the fibers and there isn't a way I know of to get them out of the paper. You can get rid of the smell, maybe, but you never really get rid of the spores. The next time these books get into even a slightly humid, dark area you have a good chance of seeing them re-colonize. They can also spread to your non-moldy/musty items as well. Burn them all, seriously, and be careful handling them.


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:13 pm 
 

Moisture damage / mold is pretty much a universally undesired defect for collectors of paper material.  Tears, stains, writing, etc. can vary based on the exact defect and collector preference, but water is the enemy.


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:32 pm 
 

Yeah, I stay as far away from water damage as possible.


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:14 am 
 

"And what do you burn, aside from witches?"
"More witches!"
And I might add, any game items with mildew.


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:23 am 
 

"She turned me into a newt!"  Does one burn mildew with witches as an added ingredient or the other way around?

Anyways, I once had a nice collection of Polyhedrons, including one Stratochamp was looking for some years ago when I first met him.  I had the issue he was looking for... unfortunately it was in a place that suffered some water damage along with all the the other mags since they were stored there since 1990 or so.  When I looked at them years later when he told me the one he was looking for... well, it wasn't pretty.  Mildew, water damage etc. is bad news.  I still remember my earlier gaming days in school when a player spilled a red colored Kool Aid on my PHB and Monster Manual.  I use them as playing copies from time to time, but that warped pinkish page color still summons thoughts of rage.... kidding.  Hope you get a good price but if the water damage/mildew is terrible don't get your hopes high.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:18 am 
 

cdenham wrote in taking in a damaged collection and value:Yeah, I stay as far away from water damage as possible.


I agree completely with this comment


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:29 pm 
 

Blackmoor wrote in taking in a damaged collection and value:
cdenham wrote in taking in a damaged collection and value:Yeah, I stay as far away from water damage as possible.


I agree completely with this comment



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Post Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:15 pm 
 

Water damage and odors?  Sorry, they aren't worth anything.  I think you are doing him a favor by taking them.  If there is mold present, it can cause all sorts of issues (health, spread to other books, etc.).  Not worth the risk.  These are gaming books, not irreplaceable works of historical significance.  If you want playing copies, there a PDFs (legal) of hundreds of old books online for sale or free download.

From the Library of Congress preservation site:

If Mold is Present

Note: Recovering collections from a mold outbreak is time consuming and costly. Furthermore, despite best efforts, results after the collection item is stabilized and cleaned may be still considered unsatisfactory for a variety of reasons. If the mold-affected collection item is considered a replaceable item, replacement often requires the least amount of labor, resources, and time and is therefore generally recommended. If the item is not considered replaceable, first stabilize the environment, isolate the item and stop the mold from continuing to grow, then consult a conservator.

- Take necessary human safety precautions
- Active/growing mold looks fuzzy or slimy; do not disturb active mold; first stop mold growth by controlling the environment
- Dormant mold is dry and powdery; follow appropriate human safety precautions when dealing with dormant mold

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:47 pm 
 

I've used an ozone generator to remove odors before. Takes time, but it worked well. Doesn't help with the rest, unfortunately. At least, I don't think it did. Never saw any visual signs of mold/mildew to verify.


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