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Post Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:02 pm 
 

I'm brand new here, and I'll be attending my first Origins next week, so please forgive me if this is common knowledge: I noticed that the landing page for the Origins auction has changed from a full description of the event to a curt message reading "There is no auction at Origins this year." Origins Game Fair | Origins Auction

I'm sorely disappointed, because the auction was going to be one of the highlights of my trip. Does anyone have an explanation for this?

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:13 pm 
 

Damn, we were going to go Saturday just to check out the auction and hit the dealer room. Guess i will save my $ and time.


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:15 pm 
 

Hopefully, only temporary for this year:  No Origins Auction for 2016 | BoardGameGeek | BoardGameGeek

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:39 am 
 

Yeah, I received a response from Katie. Seems the construction at the convention center has prevented an auction this year. Such a bummer.

  

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:25 am 
 

More than a decade ago, my partner and I ran the Origins game auction.
Had more than 5,000 items one year, half the size of GenCon.

Then GAMA changed the auction setup, significantly and unilaterally.
Ah well.

  

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:35 pm 
 

What exactly happened, Frank, if you're at liberty to say? I'd be interested to hear the story. Doesn't Live Game Auctions still run both the Gen Con and Origins auctions?

  

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Post Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:33 pm 
 

GAMA radiation? :mrgreen:

  

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:40 am 
 

Brittonica wrote in No auction at Origins 2016?:What exactly happened, Frank, if you're at liberty to say? I'd be interested to hear the story. Doesn't Live Game Auctions still run both the Gen Con and Origins auctions?


It was a decade ago or more, back in the aughts; don't recall exactly.
We did the auction at various sites (as Origins wandered) and came with them to Columbus.
GAMA, in researching some law, decided not to apply for an exemption to standard Auctioneer laws in Ohio.
The exemption was certainly a real possibility; they were bringing a lot of money to Columbus. All they had to do was ask. They didn't bother.

In researching this (because I wanted to continue and was willing to pay to get a license in Ohio), I discovered that pro Auctioneers have a lockdown in Ohio and several other states, particularly Midwestern. It often functions like this:

a. You have to serve as an Apprentice Auctioneer with a currently Licensed Auctioneer
b. The Apprenticeship can last up to 3 years
c. You are required to be evaluated as Proficient in all categories handled by that Auctioneer
d. Once approved, you pay the fee and get your renewable License

Thus: We dumped the Origins auction because to continue, I'd have to sell household goods, livestock, and farm machinery for 3 years.
Because in Ohio that's utterly crucial knowledge for auctioning games. (Unless you get an exemption.)

The law may have changed since then. I don't care; at 65 I'm not interested in an Apprenticeship in Organized Crime.

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:20 pm 
 

The last time I went to Origins was about 6 years ago(can't remember what year). The auction was a bit of a joke with one person who worked for the auction describing the game then handing it over to the clueless auctioneer. Don't know if this is still how the auction is run.


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:39 pm 
 

Why your Game Auctioneer should be a Game Specialist

At a non-game auction, the auctioneer typically starts an item 'high' -- above the current market price (assuming the auctioneer knows that info at all). It's a proven methodology which, on average, raises both expectations and revenues.

At major game auctions, we don't have time for that. (The GenCon auction often averages 3-6 items per minute, for 12+ hours straight, for 3 days.) Furthermore, if an item starts 'high' that may kill most of the bidding, as the audience starts in a bad mood (forced to wait for rational pricing). You WILL see us zoom thru the 'bargain price' range and slow down when we get to realistic bids. This is crucial. Most general auctioneers have no idea of current prices for used games products (it requires constant monitoring of both the market and special events), and either don't slow down or zoom right past it.

You will also hear us caution you if the bidding gets too wild on a common item. We don't want to overcharge you in the heat of the moment. We'd prefer that you stick around and trust us, instead of feeling like we took advantage of you.

By contrast, you'll see and hear us take our time with high-end items, describing condition especially carefully, and even ask for questions if any.

You WILL see us make eye contact with, and even verbally prod, the most likely bidders/buyers (many of whom are Acaeum members). You WILL hear us call many bidders/buyers by their first names. And of course you WILL hear us relate bits of trivia about the game's designer, history, company, etc.

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From what I've heard for several years, all that knowledge and technique is absent from the Origins auction. If I'm wrong, somebody fill me in, and I'll go back and check it out.

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:12 pm 
 

Boy, that is a sad state of affairs in Ohio. I wonder why GAMA didn't bother to ask for the exemption? Maybe too much red tape? A darn shame, regardless. I had such a great time at last year's Gen Con auction -- including an autograph from you, Frank (thanks again!) -- I was hoping for a similar experience at Origins. Ah well, there's always Gen Con!

  

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Post Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:51 pm 
 

I have to add that they at least started the auctions at $1 most of the time. Items only sold for a buck or two(as they were just very common board games and such). Someone else may be able to give info from a more recent auction.


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:18 pm 
 

Well that really sucks. Part of the reason I was going this year, albeit only Friday night/Saturday.


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Post Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:40 pm 
 

By the way, if anyone is looking for something exclusive to the con, let me know. I can pick it up for you.

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:02 pm 
 

Brittonica wrote in No auction at Origins 2016?:Yeah, I received a response from Katie. Seems the construction at the convention center has prevented an auction this year. Such a bummer.


Katie is great at responding to people...

Actually I enjoy the Silent Auction at Origins more than the Professional Auction. There is just as much stuff, and no auctioneer is required...


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