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Post Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:37 pm 
 

I'm surprised I can't find a thread on this yet. So Larry Elmore's original submission for the cover of the classic Red Box Set is now available as a print from Larry Elmore's website:

Larry Elmore · D&D - Other Basic Ancient Red

Even better, it's 20% off (as are all his prints) until the end of the month!

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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 9:30 am 
 

Thanks for posting this, Gus.

I wrote a blog post about how Elmore's original idea has more elements in common with Sutherland's for Holmes Basic, and also linked the sale of the print.

ZENOPUS ARCHIVES: Mentzer Basic Cover Art Prototype


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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:04 pm 
 

So, all these years I thought that guy was taking on that big red alone.  Turns out he DID have some backup after all.

Seems less heroic now, though.   :D


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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 1:12 pm 
 

Agent Cooper wrote in Elmore alternate art for D&D Red Box available:So, all these years I thought that guy was taking on that big red alone.  Turns out he DID have some backup after all.

Seems less heroic now, though.   :D


And we can probably sprinkle some hubris in there too ... since the Fighter clearly had the rest of his party cropped from the picture without compunction :).

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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:16 pm 
 

his original concept for the Companion Set art also had a party of adventurers

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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:08 pm 
 

Thanks misterspock! That's not just "a party of adventurers" - it actually looks to be the same party as in the Basic Set prototype art. The wizard in red with staff, the halfling in green, the fighter with the same shield and boots. The only difference I note is that the fighter's helmet doesn't appear to have the horns.

Now I wonder if there was an Expert Set prototype as well.

Is that photo from a Collector's Trove auction for a mock-up of the Companion Set box cover?


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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:11 pm 
 

I assume there was an expert set concept that was along the same lines. I have not seen one. The next time I talk to Larry, I'll ask if he remembers. If so, maybe I'll see if I can get him to do a rough sketch of what that looked like.

Yes, this print of the Companion set concept art was from an auction about two and a half years ago.

edit: Thanks for that update post on your blog, looks good! just wanted to say that yes, this artwork did appear in one of the TSR catalogs for certain.

It just dawned on me that the concept art for the Companion cover could have actually been for the Expert set. They may have needed some art real fast when the Companion set was in development and just re-purposed that art for the catalog and the Gen Con booth display print. They re-purposed a lot of art during that time.
The Hydra they are fighting is a monster introduced in the Expert set, maybe that's why Larry picked it for the cover concept.


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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 12:31 am 
 

Sorry guys do yoy agree on the fact that these pieces of info should be somehow stored in the Acaeum pages?  Ideally as additional info on the BECMI sets...
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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 12:42 am 
 

sure, that would be great to have it collected on one page

here's another photo of that Companion concept art print

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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 8:14 pm 
 

Very cool pieces


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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 9:32 pm 
 

I like the concept art/mock-ups better than the final choices.


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:36 pm 
 

here's an update:
I talked to Larry about the concept art. He said that the concept art (shown on the Companion mock up/poster) was done at the same time as the Basic concept art (before Gygax had him revise it). However he couldn't remember if there was a third concept art piece done (ie, for the Expert set) or not. So unless we're able to find out another way whether they had him do three concept pieces for Basic, Expert and Companion around the same time, then we may never know whether there this concept art was specifically done for the Companion set. I'm sort of thinking as I mentioned before that this concept art which appeared a year later as a mockup/poster was really the early idea for the Expert set. Then someone re-purposed it the next year for the Companion mockup to pre-sell to the distributors. Just my guess.

  
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