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Post Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:39 pm 
 

Hi all---

Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publications?  Or even of individual fanzines?  I'm thinking of something along the lines of what Shannon Appel did for the RuneQuest/etc. fanzines at RPG Magazine Indices

I've been collecting bits and pieces of info written by Gygax and Kuntz in particular, with some additional info by Ward, Jaquays, etc. but would love to know that someone's already done this research :D

Gygax has a pretty long bibliography file, but it's pretty light on the fanzine and wargaming magazine articles' details.  Kuntz was a major force behind the Castles & Crusades Society's Domesday Book, as well, but I haven't picked his brain on his other early writings (yet).  

Mike Badolato discovered a 1975 Diplomacy fanzine that has a Gygax short story in it, which describes a descent into Greyhawk Castle (see greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh_castle_bla ... voir1.html).

I'm sure that there are other discoveries out there like that one, just waiting to be found---perhaps in Alarums & Excursions (where some of the very early TSR folks contributed, per my email correspondence with Lee Gold), in Dungoneer (to which Jim Ward was a frequent contributor), an in other fanzines I know nothing about (Len Lakofka was a big contributor across many from what I've read).  

Anyone know where to start looking?

  


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petertohen wrote in Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publi:Hi all---

Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publications?  Or even of individual fanzines?  I'm thinking of something along the lines of what Shannon Appel did for the RuneQuest/etc. fanzines at RPG Magazine Indices


Ariel Archives Online- Opening Page is Brett Easterbrook's site, which is the most-comprehensive non-Diplomacy-zines archive that I know of.

For Dippy zines see Doug's Diplomacy and Eternal Sunshine Page

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Post Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:48 am 
 

A source for me was an unpublished page of ToT...  Now of course it s not available!

Another source is the book Playing at the world... Useless to say,  a great reading!

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aia wrote in Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publi:Another source is the book Playing at the world...

... though really what that book would say is to consult George Phillies's Guide to Wargaming Periodical Literature, and its sequel the History of Wargaming Quarterly. It's the only significant tabulation of fanzine literature of the era meaningful to most readers here (the last 60s through the late 70s). Effectively Dr. Phillies's work is the definitive bibliography of fanzine game publications.

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grodog wrote in Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publi:
petertohen wrote in Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publi:Hi all---

Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publications?  Or even of individual fanzines?  I'm thinking of something along the lines of what Shannon Appel did for the RuneQuest/etc. fanzines at RPG Magazine Indices


Ariel Archives Online- Opening Page is Brett Easterbrook's site, which is the most-comprehensive non-Diplomacy-zines archive that I know of.

For Dippy zines see Doug's Diplomacy and Eternal Sunshine Page

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unless i'm doing something wrong I can't get Easterbrook's site to give me much info on any zines.


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increment wrote in Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publi:
aia wrote in Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publi:Another source is the book Playing at the world...

... though really what that book would say is to consult George Phillies's Guide to Wargaming Periodical Literature, and its sequel the History of Wargaming Quarterly. It's the only significant tabulation of fanzine literature of the era meaningful to most readers here (the last 60s through the late 70s). Effectively Dr. Phillies's work is the definitive bibliography of fanzine game publications.


Are these books still in print, Jon?

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webrik33 wrote in Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publi:unless i'm doing something wrong I can't get Easterbrook's site to give me much info on any zines.


I see what you mean.  Perhaps a PM to Brett is in order?

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grodog wrote in Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publi:Are these books still in print, Jon?

It was a zine that Phillies published at the time, so no. But they can be found in the Bowling Green State University collection, as can many of the fanzines that it covered.

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:11 pm 
 

It would be a massive undertaking, particularly if you are getting down to the level of providing details on each of the articles in each issue of each zine, and which is what it would need to make it really useful.

The format of the Internet Speculative Fiction Database would be ideal for this: The Internet Speculative Fiction Database

RPG Geek has some of this sort of material, such as Alarums & Excursions: Alarums & Excursions (Issue 1 - Jun 1975) | Issue | RPGGeek
It would probably be a good venue to build upon if you want to add more info as you find it.

For sources, there's also the UK Diplomacy archive: UK Diplomacy Zine Archive
Some of these issues have D&D content, including entire dungeons. See here: Beyond Fomalhaut: [BLOG] Don't Kick the Bucket: Zine Insights into Early D&D

Dungeoneer / Judges Guild Journal are covered pretty well by the Acaeum JG subweb: Index by Title


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:49 pm 
 

pages down now.. the site got hacked, I changed credit cards a couple of times.. need a lot of work;)

It can still be accessed through the way bavk machine.. the bit you want is here..

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I started.. but the time to do even 1 issue was time consuming.. also the number of zines/magazines is staggering.. I have over 4000 individual issues (if i read 1 a day it would take me 11+ years) .. and then tracking them down is another problem

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:11 pm 
 

Fact Sheet Five by Mike Gunderloy was the definitive and comprehensive bibliography of fanzines.

Unfortunately, the fire that destroyed some of the plane of reality documents also destroyed his archives, etc. and pretty much put him out of that business.

But it was awesome while it lasted.

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:12 pm 
 

Steve Marsh wrote in Has anyone compiled definitive bibliography of fanzine publi:Fact Sheet Five by Mike Gunderloy was the definitive and comprehensive bibliography of fanzines.

Unfortunately, the fire that destroyed some of the plane of reality documents also destroyed his archives, etc. and pretty much put him out of that business.

But it was awesome while it lasted.

Factsheet Five - Wikipedia


Well, that was too terse.

From the Wikipedia page:

Three books were published based on Factsheet Five: How to Publish a Fanzine by Gunderloy (1988; Loompanics), The World of Zines, by Gunderloy and Janice (1992; Penguin), and The Factsheet Five Zine Reader by Friedman (1997; Three Rivers Press). Until 1989, Gunderloy collected and, in turn, made available several versions of the Gemstone File. A number of Gunderloy's zine reviews from Factsheet Five also appeared in edited form in High Weirdness by Mail.

Mike Gunderloy's Factsheet Five Collection of over 10,000 zines and mail art is now held at the New York State Library in Albany, New York, where it occupies 300 cubic feet (8.5 m3).[8] However, only about 4000 zines in the collection have been cataloged.[9]

About 1/4 of the zines in the collection are listed on Excelsior, the New York State Library's electronic catalog; staff of the Manuscripts & Special Collection can help locate other items.[10]

Two hundred and forty zines that R. Seth Friedman donated are in the collection of the San Francisco Public Library.[11]

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