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Post Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:46 pm 
 

Hello everyone!

It's been quite a while, so I thought I'd wander on by with a question...

When it comes to RPG box sets, I assume collectors grade the box halves separately from the set's contents, yes?

If so, then what are some good standard definitions for the typical grading terms?  For example, I assume that when both box halves are squashed flat and all four corners "blown out" and a good deal of rubbing/scuffing/scratching wear, that would be considered a "Poor".

But how about if both box halves only have one split corner, and there's some "dishing"/'caving in" of the top box half? Would that be considered "Very Good" or "Very Fine"? Or is it all very subjective? (This is the condition of a Fourth-Plus Basic D&D box set I have.)

And generally speaking, how much of a factor is box condition to a box set's final value/selling price?

I ask because I recently got in a collection with some box sets whose contents are in terrific shape, but their box halves aren't, and I want to be as accurate as possible when describing them.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts/comments!

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:48 pm 
 

To me grading these is subjective and you'd probably be better off not assigning a grade and just describe (photograph) the defects.

In your example of the worn box with all four corners blown out, a lot of times in grading worn items Poor, Fair, and Good are less about the overall appeal of the item. Because the Collector appeal of the item is for the most part gone and even though an item may still have significant value because of what it is, the main concern has turned to things like - is it still complete?, does it still work (or serve its function)?, is it so worn that handling it will cause more damage to it?, am I watching it deteriorate away as we speak?

What kind of item it is, greatly determines the tolerance for damage on a Collectible. If it was me, I'd let the pictures do the talking and not spend much more thought on it than that.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:59 pm 
 

I agree with Yuk.  Pictures of the item really lay it all out for a potential buyer and being as honest as you can about the condition is always good practice.  With boxed sets, the sum of the parts could be more than the whole and if the box is demolished, i would consider selling items individually.  

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:32 am 
 

Hey there Wandering Monster .. it has been a while, your wandering musings have been missed!

On the specific question of box sets I have seen people grade the contents and box separately (e.g. contents; VF, box, VG). I did something similar when describing the 3rd print I sold a while ago. I believe in words too - pictures are good but a clear description is always helpful, although expository text rather than blunt labelling is often better here. I also think (but cannot prove) that other buyers like this too. I regularly see items where the seller has been very clear about the flaws, as well as the good points, sell well. Good luck!


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:42 am 
 

For reasonably good quality items, I find the more accurate the description, the better the price. As a buyer that's what I would want- more information to base my decision. It takes a lot of extra time, so it's up to each seller to determine whether it's worth it.

Pictures can be misleading (it's really hard to see the impression marks, creases, scuffs, degree of bowing, etc.). So the "rating" per se isn't the most important thing, but rather the descriptive details - major and minor flaws, their length, their magnitude - and zoomed pictures of each. I also rate the interior separately from the box.

Of course, as others have said, if the box or contents are really abused, then I know the buyer will most likely be a player and so the approach to listing the item changes - a simple picture, short description and listing of contents suffices.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:27 pm 
 

IMO - "good", "good+", etc are useless. A description needs to be written: "top half of box has three splits, rubbing at the two top corners, and significant compression, though not quite "crushed". the contents are near fine and probably unplayed with. Bottom half of box shows some mild rubbing, nothing severe, and a tape repaired split"


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:37 pm 
 

ckorczak wrote in Box set grading question — box halves vs. contents:IMO - "good", "good+", etc are useless. A description needs to be written: "top half of box has three splits, rubbing at the two top corners, and significant compression, though not quite "crushed". the contents are near fine and probably unplayed with. Bottom half of box shows some mild rubbing, nothing severe, and a tape repaired split"


Agreed. A complete as possible description along with as many pictures as you can manage are the best way to list an item. Don't try to assign a grade to it, just let the item stand on it's own.

  
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