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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:07 am

I heard on the piazza that Goodman games announced on twitch that they would be reprinting t1-4 and updating it to 5e as well

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:40 am

JasonZavoda wrote in goodman games to reprint t1-4:I heard on the piazza that Goodman games announced on twitch that they would be reprinting t1-4 and updating it to 5e as well

DriveThruRPG already reprints it, and at $19.50 right now, that's not a bad price.

T1-4 Temple of Elemental Evil (1e) - Wizards of the Coast | AD&D 1st Ed. | Adventures | AD&D 1st Ed. | DriveThruRPG.com

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:22 pm

Yes, but JasonZavoda mentioned that it will be updated to 5e.

Maybe they will even clean it up a bit to address some of the shortcomings of this epic adventure. That would be awesome.

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:49 pm

dbartman wrote in goodman games to reprint t1-4:Yes, but JasonZavoda mentioned that it will be updated to 5e.

You mean downdated to 5e.

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:23 pm

Well, that is a matter of opinion, but quite a few would probably agree.

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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:45 pm

Just my personal opinion:

5E has more of an OSR feel to it than 3/3.5 did. Therefore, I like it (Don't get me going on how I dislike 4e).

Now...Goodman Games is releasing old titles as reprints and also updating them to 5E. This gives me the nostalgia that I felt in the '80s when I played these titles for the first time.

If you dislike or nave no opinion on 5E, these titles are probably not worth your cash, unless you can't find a decent copy of the originals.

However, if you do like/enjoy 5E, they will save you from having to convert them yourself. In some cases, Goodman has added to the scenarios (they added a level to the ship in S3).

If you are open-minded or undecided about 5E, find someone who has a copy and ask if you can borrow it.

Their Original Adventures Reincarnated (OAR) line consists of:

OAR1: Into the Borderlands (a combination of B1 and B2)
OAR2: The Isle of Dread
OAR3: Expedition to the Barrier Peaks
OAR4: The Lost City (coming out soon)
OAR5: Castle Amber (due out later this year)

I'm hoping the above comments are true and they release T1-4 as part of their OAR line.

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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:22 pm

Nobody's contacted me about it, but that's not surprising. Original 1970s-80s authors get no courtesy from Wizards.

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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:08 pm

Rumor confirmed.

OAR6: Temple of Elemental Evil.

Per their CyclopsCon internet chat/virtual con/twitch discussion: Double book with slipcase edition.

Lots of updating - fully fleshed-out nodes, naming most of the NPCs, Nulb is going to get a fuller fleshing out, wilderness encounter tables, and lots of notes to make it "easier for the modern DM to just pick up and run."

Didn't watch the full stream, so I have no idea of the MSRP. The bulk of them are $49.99 USD, so I'm thinking $79.99?

Doesn't matter...I'm buying.

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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:13 pm

ExTSR wrote in goodman games to reprint t1-4:Nobody's contacted me about it, but that's not surprising. Original 1970s-80s authors get no courtesy from Wizards.

Yeah. I can't imagine any original author getting any love from Hasbro/Wizards these days.

Almost seems they forgot how they got here, with only third-party producers showing any gratitude and love for the "Old School."

Frank, why don't you make the first move and give Joe Goodman a call?

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:14 am

jkason wrote:Frank, why don't you make the first move and give Joe Goodman a call?

Because I was participating in the B2 project, as this news confirmed...

An Update on “Into the Borderlands”|Goodman Games

...and then Wizards told Goodman to dump me or lose their 5e privileges, so I was erased:

Original Adventures Reincarnated #1: Into the Borderlands Hardcover|Goodman Games Store

It's about the (5e) money, without honor or ethics. I'm an unperson. My freelance work has been utterly strangled, as well as most of my convention activities. (Happened in Feb 2019 in Lake Geneva, frex.) NTX is 5e-free, at least Doug & Mike are cool.

::shrug:: Since Wizards controls hobby gaming with these gangster maneuvers, I'm out of hobby gaming. It was fun, but it's over.

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:16 am

ExTSR wrote in goodman games to reprint t1-4:
It's about the (5e) money, without honor or ethics. I'm an unperson. My freelance work has been utterly strangled, as well as most of my convention activities. (Happened in Feb 2019 in Lake Geneva, frex.) NTX is 5e-free, at least Doug & Mike are cool.

::shrug:: Since Wizards controls hobby gaming with these gangster maneuvers, I'm out of hobby gaming. It was fun, but it's over.

Well, Crap.

It's a shame that "professional" companies revert to their 1970's child-like selves when a perceived threat to their purses come up.

Frank - If you ever decide to do any more RPG stuff, I'll buy.

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 8:03 am

Here the link to this upcoming product:

Announcing Temple of Elemental Evil as 6th Volume In Our Original Adventures Reincarnated Line|Goodman Games

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 4:28 pm

For those with OAR1, 2, 3 or 4, are these "worth" getting at $50 a pop? That is, do you find the historical notes, extra material plus the 5E conversion meaningfully different from the original modules?

Apparently OAR6 will be a two volume set. I could see the reprint, fleshing out TOEE and including some missing text from T1 would be a strong add.

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 6:37 pm

Sea-to-sky-games wrote in goodman games to reprint t1-4:For those with OAR1, 2, 3 or 4, are these "worth" getting at $50 a pop? That is, do you find the historical notes, extra material plus the 5E conversion meaningfully different from the original modules?

Apparently OAR6 will be a two volume set. I could see the reprint, fleshing out TOEE and including some missing text from T1 would be a strong add.

"Worth" is a relative term.
It makes me happy to read (and re-read) the adventures, so yes. it is worth it to me.
It may not be so for others. The interviews and extra material may make it worth it for others, or maybe even just the conversion itself.

And - my FLGS (Dragon's Lair in Wallingford, CT) sells them to me on pre-order at $39.99 each.
So....Bonus! Not spending as much money on stuff.

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Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 5:39 pm

So why has WoTC let 3rd party publishers reprint what I consider "Core" D&D modules?

Wouldn't it be like printing money?

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Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 6:09 pm

Apparently, They are letting Goodman Games give the "OAR Treatment" to adventures they have no intentions of giving a 5E re-write to.

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Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 8:02 pm

I have been running my children (and some other folks) through B2 in 5e so I picked up the Goodman book. I had just assumed there would be 5e stat blocks but there are not. Ultimately I found it easier to just use an old B2 I had and have the stat blocks hand written in a notebook ahead of time rather than fumbling with the Goodman book. So for me it was a waste of money.

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Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 12:24 am

stratochamp wrote in goodman games to reprint t1-4:I had just assumed there would be 5e stat blocks but there are not.

So how are these books 5E if they don't have stat blocks?

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