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Thri Kreen of Athas (mockup? Promo?)
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Chris Korczak
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:57 am
So I started this discussion on the FB page about a year ago - hoping someone here who isn't on that page can weigh in. Here is some relevant description:
I don't know what this is. I would really rather not open the shrink, but I am getting tempted to. It is clearly not thick enough to be the whole product.
Some changes/things I've noticed.
There are spacing errors on the rear text.
There are italicized proper names on the rear, which are not italicized on the released product.
The logo is quite different, not seen before.
The TSR logo is of a poor print quality (as it seems is most of it).
There are staples under the cover (can feel them).
There is no dash in Thri Kreen.
Some have theorized a mockup, or a printer proof. Would like to find someone who KNOWS, though.
If you have other theories, let me know!
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dbartman
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:36 pm
As has been mentioned by others, it looks like a mock-up/prototype, or possibly a limited pre-production release for review.
Maybe you can try to contact Tim Beach (sourcebook designer) or Jon Pickens (editor). They both have Facebook accounts and might be willing/able to provide some details. The cover art designer, or graphics coordinator, might be able to help, if you are unable to find out anything from Tim or Jon.
If you find anything out, please let us know.
Chris Korczak
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:37 pm
Here is what Tim Beach had said on FB:
"It doesn't look familiar to me, but I left TSR a few months after Thri-Kreen was released.
Is it thick enough to be the book -- 128 pages?
In addition to promotional pieces, TSR sometimes created mock-ups for displays, so it's possible it's for that."
Will contact Pickens - thanks!
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FoulFoot
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:00 pm
Neither a mock-up nor a printer proof would have been shrinkwrapped. So that's definitely something that was added after the printer -- either by a retailer, or by the entity that made this up in order to disguise the contents. I'd open the shrink; it's not an officially released product, so you're not losing anything/damaging the value by doing so. And it may answer your questions when you see what's inside.
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Chris Korczak
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:33 pm
I'm very close to opening it. The issue, though, is that I am 99% certain that this is an official shrink. All the shrink clues are there - nice seams, air holes, etc etc.
So it was done somewhere officially like the rest of the modules.
If I don't hear anyone telling me not to, Im gonna open it up at like 5pm.
C
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Chris Korczak
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:10 pm
The Book "Acheron" from Planes of Law is within.
By the staples, it looks like the mockup cover is pasted over the original Acheron book cover. Or somethign like that.
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dbartman
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:03 pm
Wow, that was a bit unexpected, but not entirely. A lot of times promo pieces and/or mock-ups are cobbled together from whatever is around at the time. It might have been part of a TSR sales display or used in a sales photo.
What FoulFoot mentioned is also conceivable, where someone else created this to portray it as something it was not.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:50 pm
Though actually now that I think about it, a mock-up may very well have been shrinkwrapped, giving it a extra "sheen" of authenticity for the advertising photo.
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