The Acaeum Dungeons & Dragons
Collecting Forums

Light Green S1 Interior No Dots?
Post new topic Reply to topic Page 1 of 1
Author


Prolific Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 928
Joined: Sep 11, 2017
Last Visit: Aug 03, 2026

Post Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:02 am 
 

I think the light green interior on some S1s used a different printing method. The blue interior has dots, off set printing. Its the same as the cover, used for tons of stuff even today, save for black which is all solid and done last. The light green interior is solid. No dots. Its looks like a stamp. Its not off set rosettes.

Can anyone else confirm this? 20x magnification or a jewelers loupe will do. :)

  

User avatar

Site Admin

Posts: 2304
Joined: Oct 19, 2002
Last Visit: Aug 04, 2026
Location: Honolulu, HI

Post Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:13 am 
 

I don't have any more copies to definitively say, but dots are not indicative of offset printing.  Offset printing uses plates and produces solid colors with sharp edges.  While typically dots are indicative of inkjet printing, an exception is how images are often printed -- in halftone (the most obvious example is how newspaper pictures are still printed today).  I'd say, again without seeing it, that the light green interior was produced using an image / halftone process, whereas the blue interior used a plate / offset process.

Foul

  


Prolific Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 928
Joined: Sep 11, 2017
Last Visit: Aug 03, 2026

Post Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:17 pm 
 

I have spent a bit of time looking at cards, but only some looking at DnD items. I may be wrong, its just what I have right now. I cant say why I never looked at these.

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Last edited by Tszii on Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
  


Prolific Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 928
Joined: Sep 11, 2017
Last Visit: Aug 03, 2026

Post Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:17 pm 
 

This is the light green. These are both first prints btw.

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
  

User avatar

Site Admin

Posts: 2304
Joined: Oct 19, 2002
Last Visit: Aug 04, 2026
Location: Honolulu, HI

Post Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:03 pm 
 

Right, so I stated it backwards.  The blue -- with the dots -- is a halftone image.  The green -- solid ink -- is offset.

Foul

  

User avatar

Long-Winded Collector
Valuation Board
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 3905
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Last Visit: Aug 04, 2026
Location: Italy

Post Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:24 am 
 

Does that mean that offset (no dots) is made with a modern tech which stands for a late print which means a fake?!


Image

 WWW  


Prolific Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 928
Joined: Sep 11, 2017
Last Visit: Aug 03, 2026

Post Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:17 am 
 

aia wrote in Light Green S1 Interior No Dots?:Does that mean that offset (no dots) is made with a modern tech which stands for a late print which means a fake?!


No. :)

For starters, the dots you see, on the front, mean this didnt come off a modern printer. You would need a relatively large and expensive set up, including one plate per color, inks, and things that roll the paper between the different plates. They still print like this a ton of course, but only for larger jobs. Its why PODs look different. You can also look at the paper itself and staples. Its always nice to have originals to compare to. No one was selling fake moderately played D2 monos with a little staple rust for $12 in 2016 as an example.

It would also be easier to fake cards because of their size and input, but those have largely been easy to spot too. It would basically take a James Bond villain to make a fake so good you couldnt spot it in a moment when it came to modules.

  
Post new topic Reply to topic Page 1 of 1